Fri 7 November 2025 at 11:51 am UTC 5 min read Pluribus is the newest show from Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan. (Apple TV) How do you follow up shows as perfect as Breaking Bad and its spin-off Better Call Saul? Well, for Vince Gilligan, it was to do something completely different: Pluribus. The new Apple TV show is dystopian sci-fi at its best, and the complete antithesis of the crime drama that took the world by storm. To venture into this new, potentially terrifying, territory, the show creator tapped Better Call Saul alumni Rhea Seehorn to lead it, which is a turn of events the actor tells Yahoo UK she's still getting her head around. "It was awesome to reunite with Vince," Seehorn tells Yahoo UK. "When we were finishing Better Call Saul— well, we had finished. It just hadn't aired, and they were working on post [production] — I was checking in with all my writers and directors on that show to see what they were going to do next. "Just because their writing is so great, and also the environment that he creates for you to play in is an incredible thing. And so Vince said that he wrote something for me, which, first, I cried, and then I said 'yes'. And he said, 'I'm not ready to give you a script,' and I said, 'It doesn't matter.' And he's like, 'I don't know what to tell you it's about yet.' And I said, 'It doesn't matter. Just tell me what time I'm getting there.' "Because I knew it was going to be incredible storytelling, an incredible character, [full of] complexity, and [it would be] challenging. Plus, it was just the beautiful compliment that, in my opinion, one of the best television writers of all time would say that. Advertisement Advertisement Advertisement "I'm still pinching myself that I got cast in Better Call Saul. So I'll catch up any minute, maybe." Better Call Saul alum Rhea Seehorn takes on the lead role in Pluribus, a role that was written for her. (Apple TV) Pluribus is certainly different from what fans of Vince Gilligan might expect — a weird and wonderful sci-fi show that is both bleak and darkly humorous. It follows Seehorn's character, Carol Sturka, an author described as the unhappiest person in the world, who must navigate the end of the world when an alien virus transforms everyone on Earth into eternally happy beings — and they want Carol to be happy too. It's bold, unexpected, and an absolute wild ride of a series. It is the antithesis of Breaking Bad in some respects; at the very least, it's closer to Gilligan's work on The X-Files, where he served as executive producer for two seasons, than it is anything else. And so strong is Apple TV's faith in the series that it has already been renewed for a second season. Rhea Seehorn reunites with Vince Gilligan after starring in Better Call Saul (AMC) What made the new TV series an exciting prospect was that it had to offer something different to capture audiences, because Pluribus was a whole new frontier. Advertisement Advertisement Advertisement "Part of what was new, I would say, was Better Call Saul had a mothership, that was Breaking Bad," Seehorn explains. "Even though there are differences between the two shows —there are characters that were pre-established, there is a tone that is established, and a style that's been established — but in Pluribus, there was nothing establishing it. The Apple TV show is very different to Breaking Bad, the masterpiece that put Vince Gilligan on the map. (AMC) "Like, what is this world? Who are we? And that was really cool to find with Vince because he knew a lot of what he wanted, but he also wanted to explore what it was, and wanted to explore what The Others are, and then [Karolina Wydra] had to take on that challenge." Wydra, who plays Zosia, one of the aforementioned Others, adds: "Yeah, it was great to discover it together from the beginning and just have these discussions of where these people live, what it means to be happy, what it means to be content, what it means to be unflappable and the layers and levels of that. Pluribus is bold and brilliant sci-fi, the kind of series that is best at its weirdest. (Apple TV) "And going on that journey was pretty special, and the way Vince writes, he's such a master of his craft, so there's so much humour in it, and he, on the day, would be finding things… [Rhea and Vince] have such a beautiful working relationship, and it was just so fascinating to watch you guys work together and have that language. It was pretty special to be part of this incredible creative family." Advertisement Advertisement Advertisement There is a connection to Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, though, and that's the fact that the story is set in Albuquerque, New Mexico, the same place where Walter White rose to the top of the drug cartel, and Saul Goodman became the hotshot lawyer to help him get there. It was an interesting experience for Seehorn to return there so soon after finishing her work on Better Call Saul, but mainly because the concept of Pluribus was so out there: "The pilot was physically challenging, as you may have perceived. The whole show was sometimes, but that was also really cool. "I don't think I'd been asked to physically inhabit something like that before. The storytelling required a great amount of physicality at times… [but] it's a very magical place to film actually." Pluribus has premiered its first two episodes on Apple TV, with new episodes airing weekly. 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